Information Session on the Proposals
Attending (and abbreviations):
BG: Bill Gural
BW: Brian Walker
DVDC: Denise VanDeCruze
GE: Gayle Erdheim
JE: Jeffrey Ensminger
JW: Jamie Willeford
LJW: LJ Willeford
MB: Michael Bacon
MM: Martha Moore
RR: Risa Racecar
SD: Steph Dawning
SR: Sven Rinke
TR: Tom Roche
WE: Wells Eddleman
other Co-op members
+Prop 1.+
GE leaves early. *JE:* A Wandering Feast/Bahama Organics amendment to proposal 1. www.neemtree.org, awanderingfeast@mindspring.com. How much space would they need? *JE:* Formerly used only back of this store: left ~1990. Catering company, "22 years in Durham." Can they invest in industrial kitchen, bring to code? *JE:* Will hafta research. Formerly supplied co-op with foods. "passionate about this neighborhood." wants to ramp up his catering business, volume has declined recently due to medical issues. Interested in using kitchen as training center: hire and train local youth in catering. *RR:* current health inspector est ~20k$ to bring kitchen to code. *JE:* OK. "right now i have a restaurant in a box," small and large wares. *DVDC:* looking to rent? *JE:* yes, "was looking at a place up the street." *MB:* partnership with co-op? *JE:* "I'm looking at a lot of different options." *SR:* closing off the back? *JE:* "Would like to help preserve the co-op in this location." Essentially he pays rent? but he's also interested also in buying the building.
+Prop 4.+
*MB:* this is not a co-op neighborhood, it's a food lion neighborhood. Prop 4 compatible with JE? *JE:* we can stay or go. *SR:* move feasibility: current assets -> not feasible. *RR:* Maria Braganza's worksheet. *MB:* why own? We're capital-poor. Self-Help explored? *RR:* "they laughed in our faces." *MB:* starting over, "PIFC folds itself into a buying club, and a new co-op starts over." *DVDC:* new org would need people to be personally liable. *BW:* some of our move-feasibility costs were inflated, "so don't take that too seriously." *SD:* suggested starting "sister" non-profit. We're currently NC non-profit, not 501(c)3. *MB:* Liberty Warehouse is presently HVACless, but is very cheap. *JE:* last heard LW is 8 $/ft^2. *JW:* pro-West-End, anti-DCP. "We're here for a reason," he's "not interested in serving the people who would shop [in DCP]." *SR to MB:* invest personally or fundraise to get necessary funds for move? *MB:* Prop 4 is "long-term, does not deal with immed pressing issues." MB is currently unemployed: just got masters degree in geography, but could be personally involved. Has not looked at proposal 1 in detail, he "could work with any proposal." *JE:* farmer's market wants to go full week eventually, could compete with us. *JE:* he could work with buyers' club, any other proposal. His "proposal" is on the website, is "basically a long email." "Separate business," but potentially synergistic with DFC. He's gotta leave.
+Interlude:+
*SD:* mission is health foods or general foods? She's into co-op as "alternative business model," "would buy tires" if we sold that. *SR:* compatible proposals can join forces "most important is that something happen with the co-op."
+Prop 2.+
*TR to BW:* more/harder numbers? *BW:* no, but pledge to work within Finance Comm budget (~= prop 3 numbers?) *SR:* how to implement prop 2 while decreasing sustainer discounts? *DVDC:* how to get more sustainers while paying them less? *SD, RR:* not our idea *BW:* we need more members. *WE:* previously sustainers consumed 6.5% sales, increase in staff cost last year was triple sustainer discount, "may not need to cut sustainer discount." *BW:* 10% sustainer discount his idea, comes from Deep Foods in Greensboro, saved them > 16k$/yr. more interested in getting more members, shoppers, "staff cannot do the marketing." *DVDC:* she does CSC, who will implement other parts? are the 4 of you committing to execute the things attached to your names? *SD:* did editing, little time committment *SR to BW:* are you still able to commit, even if we can't pay you as staff? *BW:* depends. In past staff could not hold sustainers or comm mbrs responsible for execution. *DVDC:* proposal 2 commits to numbers from proposal 3, but prop 1 and 4 don't. prop 3 "are the numbers that are actually happening." *SR to BW:* what's your position vs Fin Com numbers? *BW:* voted only against budget for staff, "fine with budget for ordering." *WE:* board agrees to implement whatever proposal is chosen. *BW:* does not support whole of Fin Com budget.
+Prop 3.+
*SD:* clarify general manager position. "how are we gonna put a package together by fall." and more details needed. *DVDC:* we need GM no matter if in budget A or C (not just B). *SD:* working floor as well as mgr? *DVDC:* "will need some dedicated office time," under determination by board. Position "would make certain decisions, directly accountable to staff and board, central point of communication." "bridge that disconnect." *WE:* historical burnout is handling both mgmt and finances, need to not expect miracles. *DVDC:* need transition time to prepare space. *TR to DVDC:* how much time/effort to put into search? *DVDC:* hiring comm, 3 mos. *JW:* GM needs to be a community organizer. *DVDC, RR:* agree, "that's in the job description." *MB:* fundraising? *JW:* improving community relations. *SD to DVDC:* does 30/hr of committment per week inc meetings? *DVDC:* no, but we (SR, DVDC, MM) "can sustain this commitment over 3 months." *MB to DVDC:* increasing revenue is key, where does it come from? *DVDC:* "first step is becoming fiscally responsible, assume nothing." bridging the 2 communities: neighborhood and members. *MB to prop 2:* how to inc revenue? *BW:* various ideas, many not in proposal. staff budget has decreased greatly since David and Shub left. "we're at breakeven even with current sales." *SR:* the Co-op lost >$3k in May and has not been paying taxes *RR:* "changing buying policy is my personal way to increase revenue," e.g. 20 staples always in stock. Items TBD by "2 focus groups" (neighborhood and members).
+open discussion.+
*female member:* assumption about prop 4, "that it abandons poor people," is invalid. "Will get more rich people," but can't outreach without growth. DCP is not a neighborhood: is near Trinity Park (rich) as well as Old North Durham and Duke Park (not) and to east is really poor (Canal St, 5 Pts, Queen St) *TR:* combination voting allowed? *RR:* no. *MB:* withdraws prop 4, more of an idea, would like to "retain as action item." *BG:* can we declare sense of meeting that hybrid votes are allowed? *SD:* "i dunno how as a board we would count that," but encourages people to give additional input. *SR:* "as a board we hafta find a way to implement". *SR to DVDC:* are you opposed to moving? *DVDC:* would hafta think about it. *WE:* membership gave no instruction on how to count. *Male member:* likes props 2 and 3 and 4. *DVDC:* clash between 2 and 3. *TR:* combinations make sense if chaining proposals over time (e.g. prop 3 until failure, then prop 1 or 4), "succession not synthesis." *MB:* prop 2 and 3 assumes sustainer labor meets need, even if staff hours decline. *DVDC:* sustainers have been meeting need, all needed shifts have been filled. *MB to BW:* does staff need more help, if so where? *BW:* not enough coverage. *TR:* where is more needed? Repeat: _where_ is more needed, not _who_? *BW:* ordering, finances/bills, customer service. Also marketing: maybe not top "but are pretty high up." *LJW:* issues of process. need a sustainer coord, DVDC has stepped up.
Notes by TR, editing by SR
A more narrative description of the meeting by WE can be found "here":http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIFC_CPC/message/176?l=1 .
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And here's the original announcement: We'll have a Q&A and information session with the proposers on Tue, June 13 at 6pm at the Co-op. Learn more about the proposals, ask questions, vote!
Here's some issues that needs adressing:
* How to deal with short term and long term debts
* How to make the Co-op "profitable" asap
* How to address the issue of generating revenue
* What if there is not enough revenue?
* Who will implement the proposal?
* Where ...
Some questions are Proposal specific;
i.e., for Proposal #1:
* Whom can we rent to and for how much?
* Who will take care of the building
* How do we repay membership money to members not interested in a buying club?
for Proposal #2:
* How do we staff the store if we don't get sustainers for a 10% discount?
* What shall the staff structure be?
* What is the member involvement?
for Proposal #3:
* Who will be in charge of running the store until a General Manager is found?
* Will there be enough money to hire a qualified GM?
for Proposal #4:
* How much will it cost to move?
* How will money be raised to cover move expenses?
* What will happen to the West Chapel Hill building?
* How long will the Co-op have to be closed?
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and so on. Bring your own questions!